Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Santorum's Idea of a Gift


Well fuck you very much, but that's a gift I'd return.

24 comments:

  1. I take broken gifts back for cash or store credit.

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    1. Hey GOP: If I thought your reply to Jocelyn was simply an attempt to employ humor in order to make a serious intellectual point, I would not respond to your post. However, I don't believe it is. Instead, it reads as evidence that, sadly, like so many other members if your party, you have a glaring lack of critical thinking skills; rather than address the issue at hand, you resort to childish name-calling. Ad Hominem attacks generally reflect an undeveloped ability to reason and a paucity of insight into complex questions.

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  3. I hope he's only so quick to condemn his daughter to such a horrible life because he knows how astronomically unlikely it is to ever happen. I hate to admit this, but I am really fighting the urge to say that I hope it does happen to one of them.

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  4. He's being essentially dishonest. He doesn't want women to make the right decision. What he wants is to take the decision away from women entirely. I don't understand this man: he complains that Obama wants to take away our freedoms, and then he won't trust us to behave like adults.

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    1. ...and who says that bringing the child to term is "the right [as in correct] decision", anyway? Just take a look at what the census people said was the world's populace (seven billion, for you republitards out there) and what actual scientists say Earth will be able to "modest but comfortably" sustain in 2100, aka two billion AT MOST, and you can see we've got a big problem.

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    2. If the child is an individual, deserving of individual rights, that isn't the consistent belief in freedom to prevent the child from being killed? Ultimately, if you believe in freedom or individual rights, the question is whether the fetus is an individual. If it is, that abortion should clearly be illegal, if the fetus isn't an individual, that freedom would be pro-choice.

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  5. These comments by santorum have stirred up a big frothy mess.

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    1. I can't decide which is more disgusting; santorum or Santorum.

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    2. Oh, why choose? See the limerick ...

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  6. He is making the decision for my sister and niece. He does not have that right. If they want to keep the rapist's child, that is THEIR decision, not his. What a tinpot arrogant dictator. Who would want him for president?

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  7. I like how he quickly points out that his view has nothing to do with religion, and then seconds later uses the argument that the pregnancy is a gift from god. Nobody likes abortions, or wants them to happen. I just think that instead of making it illegal we should focus every resource possible into preventing the pregnancies in the first place. It would be great of every woman that is raped is able to take the morning after pill as soon as possible. That can't always happen if they don't report it right away, but we can make sure that those that do report it have immediate access to it without a hassle

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  8. You are all losers with child like minds. No matter the vocabulary you use, wisdom and any sign of intelligence is not there. If he has no rights to saying anything against what you believe then you have no right to say anything for what you believe. If you believe what you think is right and he believes you are wrong (which you are.), then your position in no more valid than his. See you in Hell from Heaven, you dirty pieces of trash. Just kidding. Have a nice day!

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    1. @Ucantno: wtf are you talking about? YOU have no clue, obviously, about what's being discussed here, do you? Rick, the Dick's, wife had an abortion. Period. YOU are the loser here, with the child-like mind! As far as going to hell or heaven, then you're welcome to go to an imaginary place (that would be heaven), except that for SURE you're going to hell (eg., your life here on earth).

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    2. If we could have a different Earth just for you and the rest of those who appear to be legally retarded, this would be all well and good. Unfortunately, the rules of reality say that you have to share a planet with more than seven billion other souls. That means the right decision for both you and at least seven billion others has to be made on this *actual* world, as in actual here and now.

      Potential representatives, please take note: If governments were allowed to keep the welfare and sustenance of people who were of actual value to others a priority (and this will become mandatory in ~2100), the murder of individuals who talk crap like Ucantno will be legalised, as has been advocated in the GG Allin song. Cheers.

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  9. The right decision for one is not necessarily right for others, so with that in mind if you believe abortion is wrong, don't have an abortion.

    Right now that's resolves, can we start ending poverty?

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  10. Santorum a Dictator because his moral fiber says abortions are wrong? Maybe I mis-interpreted that... the problem america is having right now is nobody has had the guts to come out take a strong stand on something. Everyone thinks there should be an an exception to the rules. Then proceed to pussy foot around in office not making any fîrm or clear decision. In the mean time while raising their own salaries and say that that more time is needed... If the GOP isn't capable of critical thinking; I'm polite by saying that liberals have lost their ability to comprehend! This who web site makes me sick. Like the one guy pointed out earlier, rick doesn't need your permission to voice his opinion. If you don't like it, don't vote for him. It seems tho I pointed out something about him having moral fiber in which case would make you jackass's void of the luxury of knowing that you are a truly good person. Go smoke some more weed, hippy fucks!

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    1. That so? I wonder if you have the pumpkins to say that to someone like me in person? Regardless, it's way past time the majority of the population (sane individuals) takes the sharp objects out of the hands of people like slick Rick here and re-marginalize this lunatic fringe we politely call 'the religious right'.
      Just like the lunatic fringe of the Muslim world, it is dangerous, racist, agressive and insidious-and just like al kieda it must be neutralized as an organized force on the world stage. Period.
      That being said, I wonder if little Ricky Santorum would change his tune after beig butt raped for a few hours by a very large and angry man. Would HE be in a forgiving mood? Willing-no EAGER- to raise a child begotten by the act? Nahhhh. He'd probably sponsor a bill to have all large angry men castrated. It's the 'moral' thing to do after all!
      His name is appropriate.....

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    2. If you want to trash someone for saying another's opinion is not valid that is fine, but when that person is trying to force their opinion on others, who disagree, it is no longer an opinion. While "don't vote for him" may seem valid, if he is elected and a law that effectively bans abortion, even in rape and incest, it is no longer just an "opinion."

      If he doesn't like abortion, then he and his family should not get one. It does NOT effect him in any way, shape or form. If he believes it does effect him, because "America is immoral and God will smite us," that is NOT a valid legal reason to pass a law - remember the first amendment.

      If he wants to look at is as being akin to murder, how can you pass a law like that while condemning people convicted of murder to death? The justification for the death penalty is retribution and a deterrent. Meaning it is a "justifiable homicide," just like self defense. What about the case when a child, such as a fetus developing within the fallopian tubes, or one of the many other dozens of conditions where pregnancy can kill the mother? Does she not have the right to self defense? Let's not forget that delivering a baby is not without risk - it can cause, and does cause, many deaths every year of mothers. If a person breaks into your house at night, in most states, even if they are NO THREAT to you whatsoever, you have every right to shoot and kill them. Why can a mother not terminate a pregnancy when she feels it is a threat to her life?

      There is no such thing as a "firm stand" on being "pro-life" unless you are anti self defense and anti capital punishment at the same time - which Santorum is NOT. That makes him a hypocrite beside the fact that his "opinion" is more than opinion when in the position he is in.

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  11. My respect goes out to the interviewer who stays fairly calm while this frothy mix of fecal matter and lube makes this outrageous comments. If he would have made such a comment to my face he would have left with a broken jaw. This is not even an opinion. It's just a smack in the face to all rape victims. If getting raped and pregnant really would be God's idea of a nice gift, I would rather go to hell.

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  12. Maybe he should run for local king of some Arabic country where women are second class citizens and rape sounds like a horrable, yet acceptable choice of gift?

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  13. Maybe he should run for local king of some Arabic country where women are second class citizens and rape sounds like a horrable, yet acceptable choice of gift?

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  14. Santorum says that that his reason that abortion should be illegal is because it infringes on his "right to conscience," but says that mother's (or anyone for that matter) DON'T have a right to privacy. Beside the fact that the "right to conscience" isn't anywhere in the text of the constitution, and there are no landmark cases arguing it falls under the 4th, 9th, 10th, or 14th amendments (while right to privacy IS protected by griswold v. connecticut) - from a practical law standpoint, abortion is legal (aside from roe v. wade).

    Death is defined by US law as the "death of the brainstem" which is determined when the brainstem ceases to function (not death of all the neurons, just ceassation of functionality). Conversely, that would mean life doesn't start until the brainstem is functional - which happens right around 20 weeks (full functionality differentiates on a per-person basis). Calling a single cell, or a group of cells a living person is stupid and scientifically incorrect. If a gamete doesn't implant (33% of the time) is that then murder? If you get a heart transplant, is that person not considered dead - since you now have their cells - with their DNA in your body (same goes with blood transfusion - you have foreign DNA circulating in your veins and arteries)?

    If you want to ban abortion or call it murder, the fetus being born has to be considered a living person - which by all legal precedent is development of the brain stem - plain and simple. That still leaves 20 weeks to get an abortion without "murdering a person." Simply calling a group of cells a person (the personhood amendment) is completely absurd and goes against EVERYTHING we know scientifically and legally and would cause chaos legally... Technically, by the personhood agreement a woman getting a period with an unimplanted fetus would be murder...or at the very least involuntary manslaughter...

    Think about that before spouting your mouth off about being "pro-life"...

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  15. Santorum sez, “When life gives you rapes, make rapenade.”

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